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Laid off

Andrew Jones was laid off by Church Mission Society today which is a difficult blow at anytime but especially during this time of global economic duress.

The Tall Skinny Kiwi, Andrew Jones Anyway. Its a hard thing to receive a redundancy letter, despite how nice your employer has been about it. Its like getting dumped by a girlfriend. Its a blow to your ego. It whispers insulting challenges to your accomplishments, It highlights the ‘dunce’ part of ‘redundancy’ when you say the word too many times in the same sentence.

You can support his ministry and the Jones family over on his blog and of course pray for God’s provision for them and their continued ministry. via

Tall Skinny Wish List

Photo of the Jones family and their Overlander by Jonny Baker

Andrew Jones is blogging about what he needs for his pilgrimage around Europe in a 4×4 Overlander. 

  • A really good 24 volt fridge so we can keep Abigail’s insulin cold. We were given an old one but the doctors told us it was too risky for our 12 month’s supply of insulin.
  • 2 big windows for the side (bigger the better) and a small one for kitchen. We were kicked out of our last camping ground in Edmonton [Lee Valley] because the owner said our vehicle "didn’t look right". Windows will probably help.
  • 2 solar panels have been offered. We could use 2 more.
  • 2 leisure batteries
  • Extra diesel tank
  • 2 new tires on front. 22.5 and off-road capability. Rear tires are old but plenty of tread.
  • Some mechanical genius to figure out how to raise the roof
  • An awning big enough to host meetings and tall enough to fit our high vehicle, or plenty of canvass and poles.
  • A woodstove light and strong enough.

If you can give away any of these parts (or cash to purchase them), please send an email – tallskinnykiwi at gmail dot com.

(photo credit: Jonny Baker)

Tall Skinny Bailout

Andrew Jones is blogging on the debt dependent church.  Here are some of the gems from the post

I have seen a number of Seminary graduates come overseas to hang with us and to potentially find work in the "emerging church". After a short time, they have gone back to USA disappointed that there are no paid positions. Huge and wonderful opportunities . . . puny financial benefit. What did they teach those students about the emerging church? My guess is they pointed to a few cool mega-churches and said these were emerging. Wrong!

Of course what do they find in the United States?

And what about traditional church ministry and its dependence on buildings? I heard a Desiring God podcast last week where one pastor claimed some of his churches in Texas were worth $150 million and $250 million. How is it possible to reproduce this model without incurring incredible levels of debt? And has anyone stopped to ask if buying a huge building is the best way to spend God’s money?

How much does it cost to start a traditional church with a building and paid pastor? A million? Two million? A million dollars on the mission field could help launch a huge sprinkling of house churches that would saturate an area with small vibrant communities of faith where every believer is a minister. This is happening today and it is wonderful.

Suddenly Seminary at Habbo Hotel with Andrew Jones I think Andrew has some good things to say here but he is missing the point that a privately funded (this means paid for by massive tuition bills and student loans) theological education creates a system where all by the wealthiest have to find full time ministry jobs just to service the student loan debt.  Right from the time we start to seriously educate church leaders, we ask them to embrace a worldview of debt and unless your parents are rich and want to help out, there are few alternatives paths to explore.  I wish Andrew had kept pushing the idea of Suddenly Seminary.  I am not sure if it the alternative but it was a way of creatively addressing the issue and it is one that keeps needing to be explored.