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		<title>By: Emerge-ed? : Subversive Influence</title>
		<link>http://www.jordoncooper.com/2008/08/28/now-more-irrelevant-than-ever/comment-page-1/#comment-5698</link>
		<dc:creator>Emerge-ed? : Subversive Influence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 02:42:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] movement to be having a &#8220;let&#8217;s get back to our roots&#8221; crisis, but there you go. Jordon Cooper speculated on his blog recently (and I think wrongly) that he might be irrelevant to the emerging church conversation. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] movement to be having a &#8220;let&#8217;s get back to our roots&#8221; crisis, but there you go. Jordon Cooper speculated on his blog recently (and I think wrongly) that he might be irrelevant to the emerging church conversation. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dick Groot</title>
		<link>http://www.jordoncooper.com/2008/08/28/now-more-irrelevant-than-ever/comment-page-1/#comment-5661</link>
		<dc:creator>Dick Groot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 06:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes Josh,  I agree, an interesting topic.  :-)  and Jordon... in my experience you are one of the more open minded, question asking people I know.

I appreciate that...  I read your blog because it encourages me to ask questions and to challenge and to try and think outside the box.

Jerry,  I think I read a bit into the person who sent Jordon an email...  and I reacted in a defensive way.  

:-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes Josh,  I agree, an interesting topic.  <img src='http://www.jordoncooper.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   and Jordon&#8230; in my experience you are one of the more open minded, question asking people I know.</p>
<p>I appreciate that&#8230;  I read your blog because it encourages me to ask questions and to challenge and to try and think outside the box.</p>
<p>Jerry,  I think I read a bit into the person who sent Jordon an email&#8230;  and I reacted in a defensive way.  </p>
<p> <img src='http://www.jordoncooper.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jerry Rose</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jerry Rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 01:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dick, I think you are reading a little into Jordon&#039;s post.  

Jordon, I think in many ways your critic is kind of right, have you posted on the church five times in 2008?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dick, I think you are reading a little into Jordon&#8217;s post.  </p>
<p>Jordon, I think in many ways your critic is kind of right, have you posted on the church five times in 2008?</p>
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		<title>By: Josh M</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 23:49:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know if believing something is rigid beliefs.  Jordan has some strong opinions over the year which have changed but I don&#039;t know if you are trying to enforce them on anyone.  I am quite a bit more conservative politically than Jordan but at the same time I see some give and take even there.  If I am right I think that Jordan&#039;s vote has changed over the last last couple state elections.

Of course blogging and any kind of media has a certain aspect of opinion projection.  I think of Instapundit and there is a belief system there that has boundaries and even in Christianity, there are boundaries of what you believe and don&#039;t believe.  

It&#039;s an interesting topic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if believing something is rigid beliefs.  Jordan has some strong opinions over the year which have changed but I don&#8217;t know if you are trying to enforce them on anyone.  I am quite a bit more conservative politically than Jordan but at the same time I see some give and take even there.  If I am right I think that Jordan&#8217;s vote has changed over the last last couple state elections.</p>
<p>Of course blogging and any kind of media has a certain aspect of opinion projection.  I think of Instapundit and there is a belief system there that has boundaries and even in Christianity, there are boundaries of what you believe and don&#8217;t believe.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s an interesting topic.</p>
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		<title>By: Jordon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 22:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dick, I don&#039;t think I have that rigid beliefs.  My theology is paradoxical at best and I know it has changed over the years.  Probably 80% of my theology is correct and 20% is wrong but I don&#039;t know which is which many days.

I don&#039;t think that the person who questioned me was wrong either.  I disagreed a bit in that I don&#039;t think discussion in the church is a professionally lead conversation but others disagree.  I don&#039;t know if either one of those beliefs is rigid or not.  I do know I have a different idea of the Kingdom than others but again, that is in flux as I grow older.

Karl Barth wrote with some certainty before he backed away from it and wrote Church Dogmatics and Karl Rahner suggested that one write often while young so one has something to laugh as I grow older.

Even my own thinking has radically changed in the last decade.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dick, I don&#8217;t think I have that rigid beliefs.  My theology is paradoxical at best and I know it has changed over the years.  Probably 80% of my theology is correct and 20% is wrong but I don&#8217;t know which is which many days.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think that the person who questioned me was wrong either.  I disagreed a bit in that I don&#8217;t think discussion in the church is a professionally lead conversation but others disagree.  I don&#8217;t know if either one of those beliefs is rigid or not.  I do know I have a different idea of the Kingdom than others but again, that is in flux as I grow older.</p>
<p>Karl Barth wrote with some certainty before he backed away from it and wrote Church Dogmatics and Karl Rahner suggested that one write often while young so one has something to laugh as I grow older.</p>
<p>Even my own thinking has radically changed in the last decade.</p>
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		<title>By: Jordon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 22:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt, Brian is a friend and I hear that jumping the shark thing all of the time about him.  It&#039;s a weird place he is in that his income comes from writing and speaking.  We expect his books to be excellent and his workshops brilliant but at the same time we don&#039;t want to pay him for the time it takes to do that.

I don&#039;t know what I would do if I was in Brian&#039;s situation but I don&#039;t think he is doing it to sell out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt, Brian is a friend and I hear that jumping the shark thing all of the time about him.  It&#8217;s a weird place he is in that his income comes from writing and speaking.  We expect his books to be excellent and his workshops brilliant but at the same time we don&#8217;t want to pay him for the time it takes to do that.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know what I would do if I was in Brian&#8217;s situation but I don&#8217;t think he is doing it to sell out.</p>
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		<title>By: Dick Groot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dick Groot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 19:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;But it is the principle&quot; you might say. Let us look at the definition of principle, which is &#039;fundamental truth or law;&#039; &#039;personal code of ethics.&#039; A law is a rule, which is a rigid unwavering concept until it is changed. Personal is &#039;that which is distinct and individual.&#039; Combine these two definitions and you have a perfect definition of rigid beliefs.

Laws are made and enforced in order to restrict social and individual behavior. Restrict is the operative word and a perfect description of what rigid beliefs do. You adhere to them because you think they are fundamental truths. You then impose, and project, them on others.

The enforcer of any law is also subject to upholding it, even though this does not always happen. In dictatorships, for example, those who enforce the law usually consider themselves &#039;above it.&#039; Their purpose is to use it to rule over others, manipulate them, and reap personal benefits.

Rigid beliefs are not much different. You may think that you are &#039;above&#039; your own rules, &quot;I am in charge of this firm and it is others who need to respect me,&quot; etc. In this way you resemble a dictator, but with one difference. When people do not abide by your rigid beliefs, you are deeply affected.

You rant and rave, raise your blood pressure, and maybe gain a victory by imposing your beliefs on others. In the meantime, your health and happiness is jeopardized. In this way you are slave and &#039;victim&#039; of your own dictates.

It is possible to &#039;make&#039; someone treat you in a way you deem polite. For example, it is a commonly held belief that &quot;children should respect their elders.&quot; Very often, when children are &#039;made&#039; to act respectfully, they will rebel. The minute the parent&#039;s back is turned they will say, or do, something disrespectful. The parent&#039;s rigidity then achieves the antithesis of its aim. In this way, the type of respect given is not heartfelt and spontaneous, but artificial. The behavior they show you, and the feelings they have for you, will be in conflict.

Your rigid beliefs are a double blind. On the one hand, if your child does not act respectfully you consider it a slight. It pushes your &quot;buttons&quot; about being an effective parent who is in control. In turn, it is pushing their &quot;buttons&quot; about respect.

These will have evolved from the feedback and indoctrination you have given them. The connotation has nothing to do with true respect, which is an expression of compassion. Instead their &quot;buttons&quot; will be derived from the connotation that &quot;people have power over me&quot; and this means, &quot;I am a powerless,&quot; &quot;I am weak.&quot; Consequently, every time you enforce respect they will perceive the need to rebel. Their &quot;buttons&quot; require them to deflect the negative connotations respect triggers about themselves.

The child has now learned how to act towards you and learned how to feel about him/herself. Actions resulting from this indoctrination will never be from the heart, but from the head, and it&#039;s &quot;buttons.&quot; They can now only show you &#039;masks&#039; of respectfulness, all the while increasing the size of their &quot;buttons&quot; around the concept.

When rigid beliefs about manners are imposed on others, they will always lead to the antithesis of what you want. They disallow others to express themselves in their own unique way. Whether they rebel or succumb to your wishes, they are acting as a result of the pressure of your beliefs.

The particular ways in which respect manifest are incidental. There is no one way that is going to suit everyone. However, when acts of respect arise from the heart, you cannot go wrong. Any action arising from the heart is not distorted by beliefs, but spontaneous. These actions are in tune with your true nature. Even if they are misinterpreted, they can never be &#039;wrong.&#039;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;But it is the principle&#8221; you might say. Let us look at the definition of principle, which is &#8216;fundamental truth or law;&#8217; &#8216;personal code of ethics.&#8217; A law is a rule, which is a rigid unwavering concept until it is changed. Personal is &#8216;that which is distinct and individual.&#8217; Combine these two definitions and you have a perfect definition of rigid beliefs.</p>
<p>Laws are made and enforced in order to restrict social and individual behavior. Restrict is the operative word and a perfect description of what rigid beliefs do. You adhere to them because you think they are fundamental truths. You then impose, and project, them on others.</p>
<p>The enforcer of any law is also subject to upholding it, even though this does not always happen. In dictatorships, for example, those who enforce the law usually consider themselves &#8216;above it.&#8217; Their purpose is to use it to rule over others, manipulate them, and reap personal benefits.</p>
<p>Rigid beliefs are not much different. You may think that you are &#8216;above&#8217; your own rules, &#8220;I am in charge of this firm and it is others who need to respect me,&#8221; etc. In this way you resemble a dictator, but with one difference. When people do not abide by your rigid beliefs, you are deeply affected.</p>
<p>You rant and rave, raise your blood pressure, and maybe gain a victory by imposing your beliefs on others. In the meantime, your health and happiness is jeopardized. In this way you are slave and &#8216;victim&#8217; of your own dictates.</p>
<p>It is possible to &#8216;make&#8217; someone treat you in a way you deem polite. For example, it is a commonly held belief that &#8220;children should respect their elders.&#8221; Very often, when children are &#8216;made&#8217; to act respectfully, they will rebel. The minute the parent&#8217;s back is turned they will say, or do, something disrespectful. The parent&#8217;s rigidity then achieves the antithesis of its aim. In this way, the type of respect given is not heartfelt and spontaneous, but artificial. The behavior they show you, and the feelings they have for you, will be in conflict.</p>
<p>Your rigid beliefs are a double blind. On the one hand, if your child does not act respectfully you consider it a slight. It pushes your &#8220;buttons&#8221; about being an effective parent who is in control. In turn, it is pushing their &#8220;buttons&#8221; about respect.</p>
<p>These will have evolved from the feedback and indoctrination you have given them. The connotation has nothing to do with true respect, which is an expression of compassion. Instead their &#8220;buttons&#8221; will be derived from the connotation that &#8220;people have power over me&#8221; and this means, &#8220;I am a powerless,&#8221; &#8220;I am weak.&#8221; Consequently, every time you enforce respect they will perceive the need to rebel. Their &#8220;buttons&#8221; require them to deflect the negative connotations respect triggers about themselves.</p>
<p>The child has now learned how to act towards you and learned how to feel about him/herself. Actions resulting from this indoctrination will never be from the heart, but from the head, and it&#8217;s &#8220;buttons.&#8221; They can now only show you &#8216;masks&#8217; of respectfulness, all the while increasing the size of their &#8220;buttons&#8221; around the concept.</p>
<p>When rigid beliefs about manners are imposed on others, they will always lead to the antithesis of what you want. They disallow others to express themselves in their own unique way. Whether they rebel or succumb to your wishes, they are acting as a result of the pressure of your beliefs.</p>
<p>The particular ways in which respect manifest are incidental. There is no one way that is going to suit everyone. However, when acts of respect arise from the heart, you cannot go wrong. Any action arising from the heart is not distorted by beliefs, but spontaneous. These actions are in tune with your true nature. Even if they are misinterpreted, they can never be &#8216;wrong.&#8217;</p>
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		<title>By: Jordan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 15:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey!

I Enjoy reading your blog and can sense that your frustrations will only be your greatest strength in your journey of faith!

By the way I was in Toon last week and picked up a copy of &#039;divine nobodies&#039; at McNally Robinson for $3.99... I think there was 3 copies left... You can find them in the &#039;Christian Bargain&#039; rack, right by the music magazines!

Peace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey!</p>
<p>I Enjoy reading your blog and can sense that your frustrations will only be your greatest strength in your journey of faith!</p>
<p>By the way I was in Toon last week and picked up a copy of &#8216;divine nobodies&#8217; at McNally Robinson for $3.99&#8230; I think there was 3 copies left&#8230; You can find them in the &#8216;Christian Bargain&#8217; rack, right by the music magazines!</p>
<p>Peace.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Jon Tap</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian Jon Tap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 14:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have the same feelings Jordon. Again it seems to come down to &quot;doing&quot; church versus being the church. When someone comes up with ideas to get us &quot;out&quot; of the spiritual rut, we analyze it, package it, market it, and then it becomes the opposite of the desired outcome. You are as relevant as anyone can be, but you are not relevant to the &quot;system&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have the same feelings Jordon. Again it seems to come down to &#8220;doing&#8221; church versus being the church. When someone comes up with ideas to get us &#8220;out&#8221; of the spiritual rut, we analyze it, package it, market it, and then it becomes the opposite of the desired outcome. You are as relevant as anyone can be, but you are not relevant to the &#8220;system&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Boehm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt Boehm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 14:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel you. The existence of an &quot;Emerging Church&quot; section of the bookstore is telling in and of itself.
When I heard about McLaren (for example) doing all the stuff he started doing, I was kind psyched that somebody I respected was going to be able focus attention on the conversation. When I saw it would cost me ~$80 to join that conversation I knew something had...jumped the shark... maybe?
Last time I checked we didn&#039;t have anything approaching criteria deciding who was in and who wasn&#039;t. I would argue that the minute we did we would have lost one of the most important messages the emergent conversation has brought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel you. The existence of an &#8220;Emerging Church&#8221; section of the bookstore is telling in and of itself.<br />
When I heard about McLaren (for example) doing all the stuff he started doing, I was kind psyched that somebody I respected was going to be able focus attention on the conversation. When I saw it would cost me ~$80 to join that conversation I knew something had&#8230;jumped the shark&#8230; maybe?<br />
Last time I checked we didn&#8217;t have anything approaching criteria deciding who was in and who wasn&#8217;t. I would argue that the minute we did we would have lost one of the most important messages the emergent conversation has brought.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike O</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 14:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s been said that &quot;Boomers are the specialists that silents wanted to be.&quot;   And &quot;Millennials are the generalists that X&#039;ers wanted to be.&quot;  But, in both cases, the conversations drive the goals.  Silents achieved &quot;virtual specialization&quot; by assembling groups of talented boomers.  The conversation was driven top-down by the silents, but the boomers, infused by equality, linked in different races, social classes and cultures.  But, boomers, being essentially specialists, linked together by a point or two.

Right now, millennials are generalists and their connections aren&#039;t single links, it&#039;s more a case of overlapping matrices.  Millennial emergents have a sense for all the elements - a millenial with seminary strengths will overlap with one with marketing strengths.  But both will see the importance of the other, and figure out how to connect.  They won&#039;t dismiss the other for a perceived weakness in the palette of emerging pieces, they will include them for the strengths in the rest of the palette.  

A lot of aging X&#039;ers have fears that the millennials will push them out.  They did not have the same environment their silent counterparts had, two generations earlier.  Cheap oil and houses, stable jobs, good schools and a stable structured society for building relationships helped the silents.  The X&#039;ers did not get that; perhaps the Millennials can pull them together, just as the Boomers pulled the Silents into the Civil Rights movement.  

Millennials aren&#039;t like Boomers, they don&#039;t have a &quot;Don&#039;t trust anyone over 30&quot; mindset.  They want to include seminary/non-seminary and pastor/non-pastor types.  X&#039;ers - don&#039;t deal yourselves out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s been said that &#8220;Boomers are the specialists that silents wanted to be.&#8221;   And &#8220;Millennials are the generalists that X&#8217;ers wanted to be.&#8221;  But, in both cases, the conversations drive the goals.  Silents achieved &#8220;virtual specialization&#8221; by assembling groups of talented boomers.  The conversation was driven top-down by the silents, but the boomers, infused by equality, linked in different races, social classes and cultures.  But, boomers, being essentially specialists, linked together by a point or two.</p>
<p>Right now, millennials are generalists and their connections aren&#8217;t single links, it&#8217;s more a case of overlapping matrices.  Millennial emergents have a sense for all the elements &#8211; a millenial with seminary strengths will overlap with one with marketing strengths.  But both will see the importance of the other, and figure out how to connect.  They won&#8217;t dismiss the other for a perceived weakness in the palette of emerging pieces, they will include them for the strengths in the rest of the palette.  </p>
<p>A lot of aging X&#8217;ers have fears that the millennials will push them out.  They did not have the same environment their silent counterparts had, two generations earlier.  Cheap oil and houses, stable jobs, good schools and a stable structured society for building relationships helped the silents.  The X&#8217;ers did not get that; perhaps the Millennials can pull them together, just as the Boomers pulled the Silents into the Civil Rights movement.  </p>
<p>Millennials aren&#8217;t like Boomers, they don&#8217;t have a &#8220;Don&#8217;t trust anyone over 30&#8243; mindset.  They want to include seminary/non-seminary and pastor/non-pastor types.  X&#8217;ers &#8211; don&#8217;t deal yourselves out.</p>
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		<title>By: david</title>
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		<dc:creator>david</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 14:01:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you are amazing in your irrelevance. in my opinion, you are making this emerging whatever beautiful. keep caring for the poor among you, jordon. I firmly believe that is what is required.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you are amazing in your irrelevance. in my opinion, you are making this emerging whatever beautiful. keep caring for the poor among you, jordon. I firmly believe that is what is required.</p>
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		<title>By: David Swanson</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Swanson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 12:23:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I suppose the comment you received reveals a certain understanding of the church and what voices the church ought to listen to.  Odd.

I&#039;ve been meaning to comment that the posts about your work with the poor have been helpful and I hope they continue.  I think the case could easily be made that those outside the traditional boundaries of church ministry- people who often have dedicated themselves to the poor- have historically had significant things to say to the church.  In a landscape of professional ministry it is so important to hear from those who return from work smelling of &quot;dog, cat, and human urine&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose the comment you received reveals a certain understanding of the church and what voices the church ought to listen to.  Odd.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been meaning to comment that the posts about your work with the poor have been helpful and I hope they continue.  I think the case could easily be made that those outside the traditional boundaries of church ministry- people who often have dedicated themselves to the poor- have historically had significant things to say to the church.  In a landscape of professional ministry it is so important to hear from those who return from work smelling of &#8220;dog, cat, and human urine&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.jordoncooper.com/2008/08/28/now-more-irrelevant-than-ever/comment-page-1/#comment-5632</link>
		<dc:creator>kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 11:47:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just out of curiosity where have you been going to church since you left spiritwood. I keep checking the church of the exiles webpage and nothing seems to be happening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just out of curiosity where have you been going to church since you left spiritwood. I keep checking the church of the exiles webpage and nothing seems to be happening.</p>
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		<title>By: Kai</title>
		<link>http://www.jordoncooper.com/2008/08/28/now-more-irrelevant-than-ever/comment-page-1/#comment-5631</link>
		<dc:creator>Kai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 09:47:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If it still exists, I’ll be over there.&quot; Let me know when you get there...so I can join you.

BTW, people telling you what to write about, or not, on your blog is a good thing. It means they are engaged, but of a different opinion...that is a good thing, no?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If it still exists, I’ll be over there.&#8221; Let me know when you get there&#8230;so I can join you.</p>
<p>BTW, people telling you what to write about, or not, on your blog is a good thing. It means they are engaged, but of a different opinion&#8230;that is a good thing, no?</p>
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		<title>By: K.</title>
		<link>http://www.jordoncooper.com/2008/08/28/now-more-irrelevant-than-ever/comment-page-1/#comment-5630</link>
		<dc:creator>K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 06:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I never understand people who try to tell you what you can or can&#039;t talk about on your blog. That would be like me walking into your living room and starting to move the furniture around. (But seriously, have you thought about moving the couch? It&#039;s totaly my business. I think it would make you more relevant.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I never understand people who try to tell you what you can or can&#8217;t talk about on your blog. That would be like me walking into your living room and starting to move the furniture around. (But seriously, have you thought about moving the couch? It&#8217;s totaly my business. I think it would make you more relevant.)</p>
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		<title>By: craig</title>
		<link>http://www.jordoncooper.com/2008/08/28/now-more-irrelevant-than-ever/comment-page-1/#comment-5629</link>
		<dc:creator>craig</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 06:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keep blogging Jordon.  Your blog blesses :) Thanks so much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep blogging Jordon.  Your blog blesses <img src='http://www.jordoncooper.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Thanks so much.</p>
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		<title>By: bob c</title>
		<link>http://www.jordoncooper.com/2008/08/28/now-more-irrelevant-than-ever/comment-page-1/#comment-5628</link>
		<dc:creator>bob c</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 04:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>can i say that i love you so much

and so appreciate you being my blog god-father

relevance..feh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>can i say that i love you so much</p>
<p>and so appreciate you being my blog god-father</p>
<p>relevance..feh</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Kinnon</title>
		<link>http://www.jordoncooper.com/2008/08/28/now-more-irrelevant-than-ever/comment-page-1/#comment-5627</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Kinnon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 04:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good grief. If you&#039;re irrelevant, where does that leave the rest of us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good grief. If you&#8217;re irrelevant, where does that leave the rest of us.</p>
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