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Connecting but not connecting

I chatted with a couple of people both online and off today about my post here.  Here are some of things that I combined said to all of them

  • Back in the 1980s, everything in Saskatoon was closed on a Sunday except for Mac’s and 7-11.  Even our local pharmacy wasn’t open until 1 on a Sunday leaving lots of time for 99% of the population time to go to church.
  • As late as the 80s, Saskatoon only had one night of late night shopping and in our case, it was Thursday p.m.  Except for police, fire, and doctors, most of the population worked 9-5.  People who worked in bars and pubs worked later but as evangelicals we were pretty confident that they were going to hell anyways and we would go to hell if we talked to them while they were working.  It was better just to pretend that they don’t exist.  It was easy to take kids to kids club, go to Wednesday night prayer meeting and Tuesday night Bible study.
  • Drive around Saskatoon some night.  Take a look at what is open now.  Almost every mall, department store, restaurant, and many professional businesses are open a lot later now than they were back in the 80s.  This is good for jobs but it does make it a lot harder for other people.
  • Most church offices are open from 9-4:30 or 9-5 which gives pastors and staff time to go to church again in the evening.
  • Drive around Saskatoon on Sunday after you are finished church.  Almost everything is open.  Restaurants, stores, malls, entertainment complexes… everything.  Where and how are the people who are working those jobs going to connect to your church?  Before you suggest a small group, I’ll remind you that Wendy and I have one free night together a week now and one night a week that we are together as a family.  Is that to be dedicated to a small group and if it is, should it be a divorce recovery small group?
  • I said to a couple of people today, when you look at your church schedule, ask yourself if there are places to connect for people who are working weekends or have two jobs to make ends meet.
  • If there isn’t, have you thought of some online options for community?  It isn’t hard to make a podcast using Google’s free Blogger service.  Let people plug-in when they have time… coffee breaks, lunch time, on the drive home… whenever…  Stephen Shields at Faithmaps has been building communities online with Yahoo! Groups for years and people can plug-in when the time works for them, early morning, late at night… whenever.
  • The big question is one that Pete Ward asked in Liquid Church.  Is your idea of church linked to your land and building?  Can those that are not sitting in your pews have a chance to connect in a real way to your community?

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6 Comments

  1. Kimbal says:

    good thoughts. In many churches (including the one I go to) commitment is equated with attendence at “events”. In fact I had a meeting with the leadership at my church and they all questioned our (all of us 20/30 somethings)commitment levels because we weren’t at small group and prayer meetings, etc. When we asked them if they realized that most of us are in school and working and married and starting families and that time was a premium, they all seemed clueless that we were that busy. We told them then if they wanted to resceduale things to run from 9- 11pm we would love to be there since that is more realistic as far as our availability. They kind of just laughed.

    So like I said good thoughts, leaders need to realize that the same old same old might not always work.

  2. Anonymous says:

    In the 80’s when you went to Lakeview in the middle of the day in the middle of the week, the church would be dark except for the light on in the church office. The only people there would be the secretary and maybe the pastor.
    NOW, it is full of action, lights and people ( and not just staff). We are no longer restricted to open to the people on Sunday and Wednesday evening.
    Brenda E.

  3. Jordon says:

    Brenda, the problem is that I have worked with and know a lot of people that work evenings and weekends. They want to go to church but can’t find a service to attend. For years the only shifts that Wendy ever got were Saturday night and Sundays making it really hard to plug into a worshipping community…

  4. Toni Ertl says:

    Jordon – I’ve not been keeping up with your blog for some time now, and have just come back for a quick peek. Good to see you having thoughts like this – so good, I’m going to link this.

  5. Dan says:

    So if my church was to start podcasting, what do you think would be most helpful?

    Just broadcast the sermon, a more interactive bible study? interviews?

    Thanks for your thoughts

  6. Peter D says:

    You make excellent points. Time preassures, overscheduling and always on work livers are the kinds of issues that are driving my church towards place based community. Creating place for community to grow and flourish in the neighborhoods around the churh. Less car time more connection time.

    I’d recommend Making Room for Life by Randy Frazee